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    • #9835
      A A A Dummy
      Member

      Hi
      I am a new member and new to MZs I have just got a 1992 ETZ251 9000 miles have ridden it for 95 miles all OK ,but now Kickstarter is not connecting ,I have ordered a Hayens manual any suggestions what is wrong.
      Thanks
      Marc

    • #9841
      Alan Jarman
      Participant

      Hi Marc,
      Welcome to the MZ Riders. Now you don’t say what is happening to the kickstart lever ie. is it in it’s normal position, because if it is staying down then it will be the return spring. Now what I am about to say I don’t have an answer to, but my 77 TS 250/1 now and again (3 times a year) the kickstart lever goes to the bottom without engaging, it’s a bit of a stinker your foot bottoms out and it makes you wince a bit. I just let it return maybe a couple of times and all is ok again till next time it catches me out. The only thing I can think of is the 23 needles may have too much play in them so they jam but as I said not most of the time. Incidently look on U-tube there is a complete engine strip on your model. wish you well Alan.

    • #9844
      A A A Dummy
      Member

      Thanks Alan Kickstarter returns to top I think it may be a problem with the clutch will have to look at the weekend.
      Marc

      • #9857
        Alan Jarman
        Participant

        Hi Marc,
        Just had a thought about the kickstart problem, this has been mentioned before on the MZ-MUZ riders forum so next time it happens to me I will give the kickstart shaft a light tap with a hammer to see what happens only when it bottoms without engagement, the answer is let it flick back up a couple of times and then it’s usually ok. Buy the way, as you mentioned looking at the clutch if you take the cover off you will maybe need a new gasket, and just to mention I don’t use gaskets if I can avoid them, I use anaerobic sealant, great stuff, (it’s not silicone) and if you don’t know about it I could poke you in the right direction if you want. Good luck with the kickstart, wish you well Alan

    • #9860
      A A A Dummy
      Member

      Hi Alan
      Have tired your suggestion, unfortunately did not,I can push the bike in gear no resistance,so I the clutch maybe still be the problem.
      Thanks for your help
      Marc

      • #9861
        Alan Jarman
        Participant

        Hi Marc,
        From what you have just said it certainly seems to be the clutch and if you have to dismantle it you will need a puller, you can get by without any other special tools but not the clutch. Just had a thought, under the 100mm cover held on by 3 screws there is an adjusting ring and if they are not tight maybe the ring has moved. I don’t know, just a thought. Anyway good luck, Alan

    • #9863
      A A A Dummy
      Member

      Hi Alan
      Will try to adjust / check ring first ,but will order clutch puller.Thanks.
      Marc

      • #9864
        Alan Jarman
        Participant

        Hi Marc,
        This is another thought, I have owned my TS for over 30 yrs and before the refurb 2 yrs ago it was standing for about half it’s life in a corner of the garage and the one of the problems I had was with the clutch. Now, the interesting thing is the clutch runs in the trans oil but it’s not completely covered with oil and sitting as it did for 15 yrs a part of the clutch cassette was above the oil and somehow it got rusty. The rust was a bit odd, I have not seen rust like it before, it was furry like cotton wool anly stronger. I also had some of this rust on the cam plate round the kickstart mech. Now I know this might not be how yours arrived at your problem, but, thought it was worth a mention. Take care Alan

        • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Alan Jarman.
    • #9867
      A A A Dummy
      Member

      Hi Alan
      I have phoned Burwins thay think it is a clutch problem ,so will have to start with clutch.thanks for your help .
      Marc

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